- From: Tuexen Michael <Michael.Tuexen AT icn.siemens.de>
- To: "'discussion AT sctp.de'" <discussion AT sctp.de>
- Subject: RE: [SCTP-Discussion] Sockets for IPC: Unix / TCP sockets?
- Date: Tue Nov 13 14:37:01 2001
- List-id: SCTP Discussions <discussion.sctp.de>
We are testing the IPv6 stuff, but only on a testnet. Two computers connected.
Do you experience any problems regarding IPv6?
Best regards
Michael
Michael Tuexen Tel.: +49 89 722 47210
Siemens AG Fax: +49 89 722 48212
ICN WN CS SE 5 E-mail:
Michael.Tuexen AT icn.siemens.de
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From: Ajay Nambi
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[SMTP:ajay.nambi AT wipro.com]
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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:20 PM
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To:
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discussion AT sctp.de
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Subject: [SCTP-Discussion] Sockets for IPC: Unix / TCP sockets?
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Hi,
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This is an old thread that i am replying to. I had 2 queries
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Query1
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>>There might be some inefficiencies arising from using UDP and INET
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>>protocol for IPC, but memory and >>processors are cheaper than
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>>maintaining multiple methods of accomplishing the same goal.
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>>The System V IPC had some lingering side-effects that had to be manually
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>>cleaned in the event of >>system malfunction.
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Can you pls elucidate what this would be?
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>>The UDP with Unix protocol required using filenames as addresses. The
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>>exposure of filenames to users >>was a small but unneeded risk to
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>>operational safety
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Can you pls let me know abt the extent of risk and security threat that
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exists due to this 'access' to file name.
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Since the Unix domain of sockets are intended for IPC between processes on
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the same host & Berkeley derived implementations of the unix sockets are
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twice as fast as tcp sockets(i'm not certain abt system V, but i guess it
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should be on par with BSD), using these can improve the performance.
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Considering the above points, if i were to weigh the 'processor power and
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memory' & 'side effects & security', which would be a better choice of
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sockets? UNIX domain OR INET domain sockets.
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Query2
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And, has pre14 been tested in an actual IPv6 network (as a directly part of
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6bone or through IPv4 tunnelling !?!?) including multihoming with multiple
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IPv6 interfaces?
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Kindly comment on these issues..
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Regards,
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Ajay
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----- Original Message -----
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From: Michael Mueller
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<mailto:bhu5nji AT yahoo.com>
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To:
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discussion AT sctp.de
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<mailto:discussion AT sctp.de>
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 7:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [SCTP-Discussion] Why Udp as the IPC mechanism?
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I would like to support the decision to use UDP for IPC. My support
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is the result of using three different forms of IPC in my application:
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System V IPC, Unix protocol UDP, and Internet Protocol UDP. Since INET
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protocol is used elsewhere in my application, the alignment of IPC to the
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INET protocol seemed a natural choice. There might be some inefficiencies
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arising from using UDP and INET protocol for IPC, but memory and processors
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are cheaper than maintaining multiple methods of accomplishing the same
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goal. The System V IPC had some lingering side-effects that had to be
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manually cleaned in the event of system malfunction. The UDP with Unix
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protocol required using filenames as addresses. The exposure of filenames
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to users was a small but unneeded risk to operational safety. Using UDP
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with INET protocol provided determinism in specifying address/port without
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divulging this information to system users. There is some risk of another
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program using my address/port, but I w!
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ill be able to manage that risk.
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For completeness, I might add that UDP is a worthy choice since it is
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a datagram protocol as is SCTP (ignoring for the moment that S in SCTP
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stands for Stream).
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Just my two euros worth of opinion.
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Mike
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From: Sim Woon Chiat ICM CA MS MI E7 Extern
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<mailto:WoonChiat.Sim.extern AT icn.siemens.de>
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To:
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'discussion AT sctp.de'
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<mailto:'discussion AT sctp.de'>
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 5:09 AM
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Subject: RE: [SCTP-Discussion] Why Udp as the IPC mechanism?
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Hi,
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firstly, i am making the assumption that you are referring to
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using UDP as a IPC for the daemon, and i'm answering with that in mind.>
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(i don't want to get into a debate into the various pros and
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cons of each IPC mechanisms. there are people more qualified for that..)
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when the daemon was first started, the sctp library only
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supported registering UDP callbacks with its event loop, and that was the
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easiest way forward to get things going. Using other form of IPC means
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finding a way to integrate them with the event loop of the sctp library. It
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was method that i was comfortable with and in truth, no REAL comparsion of
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the merits of each methods of IPC was done. that is of course not to say
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that a review may not be needed. (but i won't be doing that now as my
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concern now is mainly in maintaining the state integrity of the daemon)
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of course, proposed alternative (preferably in the form of
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source code) is most welcome.
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cheers
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wc
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-----Original Message-----
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From: Ajay Nambi
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[mailto:ajay.nambi AT wipro.com]
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 5:46 AM
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To:
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discussion AT sctp.de
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Subject: [SCTP-Discussion] Why Udp as the IPC
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mechanism?
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Hi,
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I wanted to know if there was any particular
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reason UDP was chosen as the means for IPC. Wouldn't using 'shared memory'
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be more faster?
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Is there any big advantage in using UDP, compared
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to using 'shared memory' & 'Queues'?
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Can anybody shed some light in this aspect?
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Thanks in advance,
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Regards,
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Ajay
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